Sure, especially if the price would be 3 or 4 times lower than normal
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| Author: | Bobc [ Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:27 am ] |
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Just wondering if there would be any interest in African Blackwood Dalbergia melanoxylon in 3 or 4 pc. backs pre glued into 2 pc. sets. |
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| Author: | Arnt Rian [ Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:38 am ] |
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Sure, especially if the price would be 3 or 4 times lower than normal
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| Author: | John Kinnaird [ Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:39 am ] |
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It depends on the grain. If it is well quartered so that the joints disappear into the grain lines, or if it is dark enough in the joints to hide the jointsk, or if it can be made to look like one of those abrupt landscaping breaks you sometimes get in Rosewood, then I am ALL for it. John |
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| Author: | Bobc [ Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:43 am ] |
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John it is supposedly qs some with sapwood and black. I have the confidence to join them and have the sets look good. Just wasn't sure if it is a viable alternative. Wider stock is near impossible to find. Arnt maybe not 3 -4 times cheaper but considerably less than the $500 range that I have seen. 
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| Author: | John Kinnaird [ Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:47 am ] |
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I have no prejudices against multi piece backs and would be very interested. I have seen Martin guitars with 4 piece tops that looked good and sounded fine. I am sure lute makers don't object to such things and if Colin likes it, it can't be bad  |
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| Author: | Tom Dowey [ Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:47 am ] |
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Bob, I don't think that there would be any trouble selling it. I would have some interest. |
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| Author: | John Kinnaird [ Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:50 am ] |
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I would pretty well want the sides to be one piece. Can't imagine the trouble involved with bending a two piece side, though I have seen the results in vihuela's and such. |
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| Author: | Tim McKnight [ Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:58 am ] |
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[QUOTE=John Kinnaird] I would pretty well want the sides to be one piece. Can't imagine the trouble involved with bending a two piece side, though I have seen the results in vihuela's and such.[/QUOTE] Yeah ^^^ What John said. I'm interested if the price is attractive. |
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| Author: | Bobc [ Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:14 am ] |
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Sides would be one piece.
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| Author: | Pwoolson [ Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:54 am ] |
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Bob I've always tried to stay away from pre joined multi piece backs. Not necessarily because they are multi piece but because they are pre joined. I'd rather join them myself knowing exactly how they are done. Not at all that I don't trust your skills, it's just an unknown that I'd rather not introduce in my building. Just my opinion, but then again you asked for it. |
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| Author: | Bobc [ Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:10 am ] |
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Thanks Paul. Maybe they could be offered both ways. |
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| Author: | Laurent Brondel [ Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:26 am ] |
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[QUOTE=John Kinnaird] I would pretty well want the sides to be one piece. Can't imagine the trouble involved with bending a two piece side, though I have seen the results in vihuela's and such.[/QUOTE] Sobell seems to be doing it on a regular basis, he calls that scantling. Seems like a lot of extra work too. Sobell (Click on "news") |
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| Author: | jfrench [ Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:05 am ] |
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Bob, I would be interested too, and I'm with everyone above. I don't mind 4 piece backs. But like Paul I'd rather join them myself, so I can decide the method and grain orientation, and if I want purfling between the plates, etc. I'd also be interested in it for bridge blanks. |
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| Author: | John How [ Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:54 am ] |
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If Bob sells jointed 4 piece backs, and you want to join them yourself, it is a simple matter to unjoint and rejoint them.
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| Author: | John How [ Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:56 am ] |
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Wish I woulda known you were getting this, I just paid that other price for a set 
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| Author: | Mario [ Thu Feb 02, 2006 4:15 am ] |
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I'm also in Paul's camp. If I bought some, I'd want to joint myself, and no, taking someone else's joint apart isn't good. Too much risk for damage, and if we try to cut through, there's a risk of more damage, not to mention reducing the width. I guess my point is that all of us know how to join wood at this point. The wood will sell without you doing extra work for us. |
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| Author: | Daniel M [ Thu Feb 02, 2006 4:16 am ] |
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Hey Laurent; I think a "scantling" is a piece of wood (or other material) that is too small to use. As the worlds forests shrink, we will all be forced to make do with smaller pieces of wood. Bob; I *might* be interested too, but I'd want to to the jointing myself. I used scraps (scantlings) of figured Maple for a four piece zook back & it looks great! Years ago Micheal Dunn showed me a Gabon Ebony guitar with (i think) five piece sides. He put a Bloodwood purfling strip at each joint. It looked a bit gaudy to my admitedly conservative eye, but it certainly proved that it's possible to pull it off. |
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| Author: | Howard Klepper [ Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:54 am ] |
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I'd be interested and I would want to do my own jointing and joining. And has that Dunn dude been stealing my designs in advance again?!  |
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| Author: | Bobc [ Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:52 am ] |
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OK so all you guys think this blind senile old man doesn't have an eye for joining backs Well all the better. Makes it much easier on me.
Mario actually cutting them apart with your super duper Freud blade is quite simple but alas won't be necessary.
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| Author: | John Kinnaird [ Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:08 am ] |
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Bob Dude, feel free to joint mine. I trust ya and its just one less thing for me. You probably would do a better job anyway. |
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| Author: | John Kinnaird [ Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:10 am ] |
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Howard did you do that? Its an incredable looking box. John |
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| Author: | Mario [ Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:27 am ] |
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It's not that I don't think you can join them, but I may have a different idea on how I'd orient them, and I'd like that option. If nothing else, it's safer to ship smaller pieces stcked one on top of the other than wider sections. Like I said, everyone here can easily join wood; may as well leave it to us
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| Author: | Daniel M [ Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:56 am ] |
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Yup... Like Mario said! |
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| Author: | Bobc [ Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:58 am ] |
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Actually I think you guys are right on. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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| Author: | Bobc [ Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:59 am ] |
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[QUOTE=Howard Klepper] I'd be interested and I would want to do my own jointing and joining. And has that Dunn dude been stealing my designs in advance again?! [/QUOTE]
Howard I love it!!!!!! |
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